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What do we need more in DPM?
Posted: Tue, Apr 28, 2009 6:44 PM :: Rank: 4
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As we all know there is no better way to protect Microsoft workloads then with DPM 2007, there is always room for improvements. so... What do you need or would like to see?

i'll start of

i would like to see a solution for the non domain joined DMZ scenario.

anyone else?

 

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Re: What do we need more in DPM?
Posted: Wed, Apr 29, 2009 1:10 AM :: Rank: 5
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1. The ability to store backups in a single continuous volume for a better backup storage utilization. This also should help to reduce the number of jobs failing due to insufficient disk space in replica and recovery point volumes. 2. The ability to perform automatic corrective actions on job failures (i.e. try again in several minutes). 3. Introduction of several security roles for backups (a more grained security). 4. DPM management console should have the ability to be launched remotely. 5. A simple recovery client installed on protected systems to simplify the recovery process. "Previous versions" tab in file properties works only with protected shares. 6. Well, that's all for the first approach :)
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Posted: Wed, Apr 29, 2009 10:43 AM :: Rank: 15
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Something that has been bugging me for years is that fact that you cannot installed the DPM console on a separate computer; eg, the admin workstation. It would be great if they also converted to the new Outlook-style console.There is also room for improvement on reporting.

-- Maarten

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Posted: Wed, Apr 29, 2009 11:17 AM :: Rank: 1
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1. Better documentation (Still haven't figured out how to convert sync points into restore points)

2. Support for NDMP Backups and SAN intergration

3. Support for non-Windows devices

4. Ability to us the management console on another computer.  I don't get why this isn't available as best practices are not to log onto a server. 

If DPM had the ability to backup non-Windows devices and SAN/NAS, I'd be able to recommend it more to my clients. 

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Posted: Wed, Apr 29, 2009 1:15 PM :: Rank: 0
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- Ability for an agent to dump a local cached copy of the backup to a large external USB drive at the remote site.

We wanted to use DPM for backing up our remote branch offices, but we needed to keep a copy of the data locally at that site as well as at our HQ. It's just not practical to restore a large SQL database across a WAN from HQ, whereas if it had kept a cache on a local drive at the site it'd restore from it in minutes. Unfortunately, we had to opt for another solution.

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Posted: Thu, Apr 30, 2009 5:34 PM :: Rank: 0
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DPM with the Ops Mgr works really well, the DPM MP is really good and informs you of a process that could be over looked.
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Posted: Fri, May 01, 2009 10:54 AM :: Rank: 0
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Some non-Windows data can be backed up using DPM.  You can use Quest Software QMX architecture to extract the cisco configs and pull them down for backup in a DPM protected folder.  That ones easy. For *nix devices you could do a mount from/to a *nix box and have that dpm protected, but your probably going to hit some snags with large data sizes, so a 5TB presented lun may not be the direction you want to go.  If your looking to backup some small stuff , configs, critical files, etc.. its all good.  You could back up the mount as is or use it as a bin for backups of specific files and/or app/db backups (like rman) to be pulled into dpm.  You can use QMX open architecture to automate command calls, file moves, copies and routine backup tasks for these purposes as well on the *nix boxes to augment the solution and populate this dpm protected location.  Not superbly elegant a backup solution as direct dpm protected *nix location relative to how *nix based backup agents work, but a solution for use of DPM nonetheless if you've committed.

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Posted: Sat, May 02, 2009 2:34 PM :: Rank: 1
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1. The ability to backup to any CIFS share. Backup to Data Domain without needing VTL. 2. Support for Windows 2008 R2 VSS LUN ReSync Recovery. 3. Support for NDMP Backups and better SAN integration.
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Posted: Sun, May 03, 2009 4:26 AM :: Rank: 5
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Native Exchange mail box with single item recovery
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Posted: Sun, May 03, 2009 9:23 PM :: Rank: 6
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- Ability to run console remotely - Ability to add custom reports to console - Ability to delegate restore capability (eg. Allow SQL admins to do SQL restores but not modify protection groups) - Easy way to pause protection of a data source (aka maintenance mode for a data source)
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Posted: Wed, May 06, 2009 9:13 AM :: Rank: 0
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Can we backup over a non trusted domain with DPM?
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Posted: Thu, May 07, 2009 9:35 PM :: Rank: 0
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I don't think you'll ever see DPM natively back up non-Windows based workloads. DPM uses VSS writers for all of its backup tasks which just isn't a Unix thing. Also, Microsoft has explicity stated that they have no desire to play in the heterogenous backup space. NDMP and SAN fall into this same bucket. Note though that it is possible to select a dedicated backup network via powershell -- I know it's not NDMP or SAN, but it's the closest you're going to get. As for the Exchange item level recovery, have you seen this: http://edge.technet.com/Media/DPM-2007-how-to-do-individual-item-restore-for-Exchange/. Note though that "brick" level backups and restores have never (ever) been supported or recommended by Microsoft and I doubt you'll see them change their tune on this. Without native support from Exchange for this, you won't see it in DPM either.
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Posted: Wed, Jun 10, 2009 2:18 PM :: Rank: 0
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- Ability to run the console remotely is a definite must - Ability to mark tapes as ready for offsite even when not full if you have colocation of data turned on.
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Posted: Fri, Jul 24, 2009 7:38 AM :: Rank: 0
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1. Ability to run console remotely / even more integraded in Operations manager. (One console for the operator) 2. Non windows work loads 3. Exchange single mail restore 4. Sharepoint single document/ Item restore without use of a recovery farm. 5. ability to backup to other storage devices. ==> usb disk / firewire ----- 6. long term backup on disk 7. Documentation.
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Posted: Fri, Jul 24, 2009 8:45 AM :: Rank: 0
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You made me feel all fuzzy then with that lot! Why can't we have all of that?
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Posted: Wed, Aug 12, 2009 5:57 PM :: Rank: 1
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Ok I'm certain there's repeat here BUT, I do everything from the remote console. I avoid Remote Desktop like the plague unless necessary. Now before I say, I love DPM. I love the fact it provides easy recovery. The sucker "just works" NOW Having said that. Remote Console (I'll be blunt, I can Manage and all the other Microsoft products from a remote console, DPM should be no different) The ability to TRULY and EASILY customize the reports. For SOX compliance you NEED to be able to list all the failures on the Backup system by date and time. The Pretty bar graphs might make the CEO or CIO feel nice, but they don't meet compliance rules at all. This is an ABSOLUTE MUST and should do it out of the box. There should also be a greater history retention range on reports in addition to more and better documented Powershell commandlets for DPM When backing up multiple SQL databases (especially smaller ones) I find DPM incredibly inefficient. This needs to be tightened up
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Posted: Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:16 PM :: Rank: 0
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I wish I could easily schedule SQL and Exchange restores to disk, so I could pick these up with an existing backup solution in heterogeneous environments. Allowing this would eliminate the need for separate tape backup hardware and paying extra for separate tape rortation and archival...Nice manageability and TCO / ROI benefits.

It would be nice to get SCDPM in the door for Windows backups in situations where coexistence with existing backup solutions is necessary.

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Posted: Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:09 PM :: Rank: 1
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* Hyper-V VM restore to different Hyper-V server * Hyper-V R2 Cluster Shared Volumes (CSV) support (no host level VM protection with current DPM2007 SP1) * Increase the support of new Microsoft OS and Hypervisor technology. It took 6 months to catch up with Hyper-V R1. With R2 I am afraid we are looking at a similar lagging period * Automatic retries of failed synchronizations * Automatic resizing of replica and recovery point volumes (or redesign to single volumes if at all possible with VSS) * Reporting * Ability to protect itself * Integrated SystemState Recovery for Windows 2003, Windows Server 2008, R2 * Full Bare Metal Recovery integrated in management console * DPM Console part of RSAT * Better control of unused disk space; delete old recovery points * The barcode type representation of hundreds of volumes in Disk Manager makes the console useless sometimes. * Recovery procedure for DPM Server itself * Backup DPM database to disk option * Move volume capability in GUI * Mailbox and item restore from GUI without Recovery Store * AD object restore * Ability to split Protection Groups * Ability to join Protection Groups * Install DPM Agent without reboot of target server * Workgroup Server support * Crossbackup DPM to DPM (both ways) * Better overview of disks and disk usage * Best Practice Analyzer for DPM * Better control over tape usage: control over which tape sets are uses from specific tape pools And yes ... I still like the product a lot. It is gradually getting better and better and the restores are 100% guaranteed. So I am looking forward to DPMv3 (aka DPM2010) and hopefully a beta will be out soon. Regards, Hans Vredevoort MVP Cluster (I work with Hyper-V R1 and R2; VMM2008 R2 and DPM2007 on a daily basis) @hvredevoort @hyperv_r2 http://hyper-v.nu
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Posted: Wed, Sep 02, 2009 8:25 AM :: Rank: 1
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1) Administrator console should be reachable from a remote computer
2) Security so that different persons can view different protection groups, do different actions etc...
3) Possibility of protection different "folders" that reside on the same volume in different PG's
4) More Application support:  I think it would be a commercial smart move to start protection other products of Microsoft that include the database, configuration files... (for example SCCM, SCOM ;-))
5) Possibility of backing up servers in another domain or workgroup (through Certificates)

That would already be great ;-)

Cheers,

Mike 

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